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REVIEW: Mobile Suit Gundam: Cucuruz Doan's Island


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Deacon Blues



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:21 pm Reply with quote
I don't think people really understood the plot of this movie, and it's quite sad. Mobile suits are NOT supposed to be the focus, so battles being less than stellar or secondary is the entire point. This is billed as a family movie, so the lessons that Amuro learns in his brief stint on the island are the entire point. Of course, if you ask Yas just why Amuro went all berserker and spoiler[played romp-em-stomp-em I'm gonna squish you on the soldiers, well... yeah.]

I don't think it's a fair assessment to ding it based on anti-climactic mobile suit battles, because that's literally a filler for the movie, and a trove of interviews has explained all this.[/spoiler]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:25 pm Reply with quote
This is “Tease - The Movie.” You want a full remake of the original series? Too bad, this is as close as you will get.
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Fluwm



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:23 pm Reply with quote
Shame the action sequences aren't great. Though if so, it's unfair to blame that on Zakus--that's an issue w/ the direction. Zakus can be threatening AF. Hell, one of the most tense and dramatic fights in the whole series (at least in the manga, which improved greatly on the 1979 sequence) was Ramba Ral's initial assault on a white Base... with infantry.

Hell, if F91 or 0080 proved anything, it's all you really need to make a mobile suit battle the most terrifying thing in the world... is to depict it from the perspective of pedestrians.

Beatdigga wrote:
This is “Tease - The Movie.” You want a full remake of the original series? Too bad, this is as close as you will get.

I mean, that's the entirety of the half-assed Origin adaptation, yeah?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:18 pm Reply with quote
I just watched the movie. Who said the mecha fight is not good? It might not be as grandiose as Char's Zaku blowing ships up during the Battle of Loum but what we actually got is good at the very least (considering the small & intimate scope of the movie).

And yes, this movie is all about Doan & the orphans featuring Amuro. White Base crew and other characters like Revil, Gopp & M'Quve only have cameos as they should. Anyone should not be disappointed if the first hour of the movie is Amuro experiencing the slow life on the island with Doan & the orphans because that's the damn point of the story in the first place.

As for the main villains of the movie, the Southern Cross squad, they are decent considering they're not even the focus of the story. They are there just for their mission & finishing their business with Doan once & for all. On that note, they are decent eye-candy for the 3rd act.

But it's not a perfect movie however. The fact that Amuro got knocked unconscious in the Gundam by falling off a cliff is questionable at best. I mean, the thrusters on the Gundam's back is there for a reason. Why Amuro didn't activate it to jump off the crumbling ground is beyond me. Other than that, this positively feels like a smaller Ghibli movie but with Mobile Suits.

Also, Hayato, Kai & Job got "defeated" by a goat. LMFAO Laughing

Good story, good movie: 7.5/10
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ZeetherKID77



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:41 pm Reply with quote
So will this end up getting dubbed on Netflix like Hathaway and we'll never see a Blu-ray release overseas? Because I hate that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:43 am Reply with quote
Oby wrote:
I just watched the movie. Who said the mecha fight is not good? It might not be as grandiose as Char's Zaku blowing ships up during the Battle of Loum but what we actually got is good at the very least (considering the small & intimate scope of the movie).

And yes, this movie is all about Doan & the orphans featuring Amuro. White Base crew and other characters like Revil, Gopp & M'Quve only have cameos as they should. Anyone should not be disappointed if the first hour of the movie is Amuro experiencing the slow life on the island with Doan & the orphans because that's the damn point of the story in the first place.

As for the main villains of the movie, the Southern Cross squad, they are decent considering they're not even the focus of the story. They are there just for their mission & finishing their business with Doan once & for all. On that note, they are decent eye-candy for the 3rd act.

But it's not a perfect movie however. The fact that Amuro got knocked unconscious in the Gundam by falling off a cliff is questionable at best. I mean, the thrusters on the Gundam's back is there for a reason. Why Amuro didn't activate it to jump off the crumbling ground is beyond me. Other than that, this positively feels like a smaller Ghibli movie but with Mobile Suits.

Also, Hayato, Kai & Job got "defeated" by a goat. LMFAO Laughing

Good story, good movie: 7.5/10




I agree, this movie is essentially a family movie, and I personally loved it. I grew up with the original Gundam when I was a kid, which brought me tears of nostalgia. Just seeing Amuro fully again and all the 0079 crew is so heartwarming
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:44 am Reply with quote
ZeetherKID77 wrote:
So will this end up getting dubbed on Netflix like Hathaway and we'll never see a Blu-ray release overseas? Because I hate that.


Netflix has nothing to do with why we don't have a Blu-ray. They're only streaming it and the dub isn't theirs. Most US-based Blu-ray releases have to wait an entire year for a domestic version to prevent a reverse import of it into Japan. Since the standard release was in November of last year, we'll probably get one around Xmas, "maybe."
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:07 pm Reply with quote
Just saw it in the cinema, yes its not a blockbuster but the Zaku vs Hi-mobility Zaku fight was amazing, and the scene with the southern cross mowing down GN’s (yes this movie does nothing for the GN’s as redshirts view and its another one of those all of White Base mobile suits wiped out but they will be fine by the next episode cases that seem to pop up a lot when the entire series events take place in a 3 month timespan).

Overall it feels like a good quality but overly long OVA episode, a lot of work was obviously put in by a few people with not much money, though the list in the credits of external studios that worked on it is long. I was also surprised at how they maintained the original series odd, archaic way of animating the small children, it helps with visual continuity with the series and this feels as much like a remaster of an original episode with only the combat being fresh animation, some scenes you will swear blind they just touched up the original work its so close in art style.

I was struck how unintentionally relevant releasing it on the 21st of September 2022 was, with the main subplot being Zeon after losing the attack on the Federations HQ and now short on troops losing the war, threatening to nuke Earths capitals if the Federation forces continue to retake the Zeon occupied Gibraltar and push towards the initial invasion point of Odessa. You also have M’Quve knowingly referencing Hitler asking “Is Paris burning?”
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:01 am Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
This is “Tease - The Movie.” You want a full remake of the original series? Too bad, this is as close as you will get.

They did a remake of the series. It was Origin's.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:33 am Reply with quote
hikura wrote:
Beatdigga wrote:
This is “Tease - The Movie.” You want a full remake of the original series? Too bad, this is as close as you will get.

They did a remake of the series. It was Origin's.


What was animated from Gundam The Origin wasn't a total remake of the original series, it only covered a small fraction of the entire The Origin manga.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:20 am Reply with quote
Gundam Seed was a straight up remake of 0079 and Gundam Seed Destiny was a remake of Gundam Z/ZZ. Change my mind!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:40 am Reply with quote
lol, yeah. Presumably the reason they did so (and likewise the reason why Doan's Island exists) is because including the complete story in a TV anime would be too expensive to animate at an acceptable level of quality.

Either that or Sunrise is still operating op under the idea that UC Gundam should only be released as movies/OVAs as treats for older fans, whereas TV anime is strictly for the younger/new fans, and strictly AU to be more "accessible."

WatcherZer wrote:
Gundam Seed was a straight up remake of 0079 and Gundam Seed Destiny was a remake of Gundam Z/ZZ. Change my mind!


I don't know what you're acting like this is some fringe theory. Sunrise and Fukuda were always very open about the fact that the Cosmic Era was meant to be a reimagining of the Universal Century, for a new generation.The Origin is a complete retelling of the 1979 anime, with a lot of changes, additions and subtractions. The OVAs only really adapt the lone flashback arc.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:10 am Reply with quote
To be honest, I don’t know why people want a remake of the original Gundam. The story and characters still hold up really well and anime fans can just deal with old animation which is it’s charm point.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:52 pm Reply with quote
WatcherZer wrote:
Gundam Seed was a straight up remake of 0079 and Gundam Seed Destiny was a remake of Gundam Z/ZZ. Change my mind!


We all of course remember how halfway through MSG White Base joined forces with Mineva Zabi (?) and Sayla's father's not-Japan island nation to oppose the Earth Federation, and ended with General Revil killing Mirai (who had remained loyal to the Federation) and Ryu, Bright vaporizing Revil because his boyfriend Ryu just died, and Char getting blown up by the Solar Ray System. And Zeta and ZZ featured Amuro as one of the main protagonists not just a cameo, Char (?) spent half the series working for... Haman (?), Bright (?) was unable to conceive Haman's child, Quattro Bajeena was an alias used by Ryu who was brainwashed by the Earth Federation, Haman and/or Paptimus used the corruption of Anaheim electronics as a pretext to invade Earth, and Kamille ended up fighting against Amuro and Char on behalf of Paptimus.

Edit: and how can we forget that whole plot where Lalah tried to manipulate Amuro's guilty conscience to get him to kill all newtypes, only for her to eventually fall into Char's hands, who used her to transfer military secrets to the Earth Federation in order to bring about the destruction of humanity. Or the iconic love quadrangle between Slender (who was engaged to Mineva), Sayla, and her brother (Amuro).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:37 am Reply with quote
Deacon Blues wrote:
ZeetherKID77 wrote:
So will this end up getting dubbed on Netflix like Hathaway and we'll never see a Blu-ray release overseas? Because I hate that.


Netflix has nothing to do with why we don't have a Blu-ray. They're only streaming it and the dub isn't theirs. Most US-based Blu-ray releases have to wait an entire year for a domestic version to prevent a reverse import of it into Japan. Since the standard release was in November of last year, we'll probably get one around Xmas, "maybe."


I think Netflix did have something to do with the Hathaway's dub. That movie was dubbed in regions that barely ever dub Gundam stuff. For both Spanish and Portuguese,this was only the second Gundam entry to ever be dubbed in Latin America since Wing(though in Brazil,the first episodes of 00 were dubbed and broadcasted in Portuguese a few months prior to Hathaway's Netflix debut,but it was quickly cancelled due to a huge fiasco involving the network airing it. It's a REALLY LONG story...)
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